Then why teach all the kihon techniques that never actually get tested outside of knockdown kumite/clicker.Kyokushin is not all about kumite Why teach kihon techniques that never are actually used outside of passing a kyu grade? Self defence is all great & everything but I think a lot of what we get taught gets thrown out of the window without the sparring to teach how to apply it. I mean what goshin jutsu type sparring do we do? What is goshin jutsu sparring? Drilling is great but you need some sort of sparring to pressure test it. I agree... all techniques should be tested under pressure, I'm surprised they are not I thought the heart of our karate is real fighting and that there can be no proof without real fighting. Real fighting doesn't have rules... We only really pressure test techniques in sparring & that is exclusively knockdown or clicker depending on the dojo. Pressure testing can include being attacked or grabbed etc in any way at all, most of the kihon techniques are used in self preservation not kumite I'm not even saying that we should use all kihon techniques but we don't use the majority of techniques we learn in sparring. I haven't seen anyone use uchi uke, age uke, mawashi uke etc etc. I have personally used versions of uchi uke and jodan uke in sparring, mawashi uke in self defence... why learn them if you are not going to practice them or try them out... I like to try everything out and then use what suits me the best. A technique that you hate might be someone else's go to favourite technique, just because you don't like it or it doesn't work for you does not mean it is useless or not used. If we don't pressure test techniques why bother including them in the syllabus? exactly!... so pressure test them, get a friend to grab hold of you or hit you and try them out I mean I'm sure there are plenty of karateka that have failed gradings because they didn't know 'x' kihon technique they've never used (or will ever use despite for passing that grading) or some kata in ura - despite being more than able to fight for that level & have the physical ability. I'm sure there are, and to be brutally honest, if you don't know the required techniques, you are wasting your time attempting the test, I mean why would you? you know what is required, so if you want to move on, learn it I'm sure it happens. Not only that I think that much content hinders karateka - you can only really perfect things you spend time on. More content means more spread time over content - less content means more time on each bit of content. It srikes me that Kyokushin is not for you, you are putting way too many negatives out there in order to justify your already made up mind.... I would say its time to move on.
P.S. I hate long posts and very rarely read them to the end so don't expect a quick reply from a long post The above answers are purely my opinion... and I'm not in the habit of getting into lengthy discussions, I think what I think and you think what you think... and I can live with that
PPS... I love Kyokushin!!
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I'm with you Gary... I haven't watched MMA for 5 or 6 years now... all the hype crap before the events and during put me right off and I totally agree with not striking an "out" opponent, totally barbaric.
I have always found it easier to block face punches than anything else.... if I see something coming at my face my natural reaction is to move or block or swat it away, as its coming at your face (where your eyes are and as long as they are open )I think that makes it easier.
I'm with Gary on this , I've never found it a handicap to switch from body to head as to me a punch is a punch , once it's delivered correctly it doesn't matter the target , on a sidenote I've always hated clicker.
Ha ha ...me too, I never did it after fighting knockdown, as yourself and Gary have said, I have never found a problem switching to the head in "real" situations, I honestly cant see why anyone would??
In the UK (I've realised over the years that we seem to be the only country doing this) we have "clicker rules" fighting which has controlled head strikes... I'm really surprised that no one else seems to be doing this. This is in addition to knockdown.