do most of you train to be a sportive (competitive) fighter primarily or as an unarmed combat (practical) fighter, for when needed? Aside from the obvious benefits of better health and mind while having fun getting a great workout.
Not everything does of course and I still enjoy the practise of stuff I wouldn't dream of using in a brawl. But there has to be key skills that can be relied on within a system for me to train/teach it.
Enshin is very practical. Sure there are some fancy techniques like Jodan Ushiro Mawashi Geri that in a street situation would not work but I would say 90% of Enshin is perfectly effective for any situation.
I train to be better,faster,stronger for myself.
Maybe I will compete but this year I am just training.
Two karate paths, Carved trail moves like aikido; Time to keep one lair?
I practice at two karate dojo.
One's strong, not as structured, not with a syllabus that's 'set in stone', but the practice is hard, aimed an effectiveness: This's offered at limited dojo time per week.
The other dojo's syllabus is well 'carved' in stone, defined in a copius syallbus, ideal for all in the family with little background in fighting, that leaves hardly room to hone in effective drills or 'pressure testing' -- yet most of the male dan grades appear to be effective enough.
Since I've added regular zazen practice at a zendo, I now want to focus my karate training to drill more on practical/effective unarmed combat karate, the kind of karate that can fend off full contact moves. I had wanted to wait until they teach me Pinan V, but that's nearly a year off or so in the syllabus.
Since I can not seem to let go my recurring thoughts about the so called "traditional" Japanese karate dojo, that reminds me of aikido-like compliance practices, I am wondering if I ought to bow out soon of that karate dojo of occasional contact (3 or 4 times per month point-sparring, with very controlled head contact) karate...
hense my haiku, as above
back to thread on topic:
once, I did feel the need to pre-emptively strike at a fellow lunging towards, like a wrestler, at me at a bar. My waza was not anything I've done in sparring, other then the surprising speed with which my open hand strike hit the base of his neck, at the front, and he fell backwards. Although he was clearly more powerfully built, that gave him enough doubt to let it be. Since then I value sparring of any kind that improves decisiveness, speed, and control.
Last Edit: May 19, 2011 16:08:56 GMT -5 by havamal
But why the Haiku? In a thread about self-defence it makes no sense.
Gary, it's like a finger pointing to the moon........ ;D
forget all the mystical mumbo jumbo and concentrate on learning how to twat someone good and proper. honestly mate it will serve you better than meditative art/sport/aikido classes that you can take.
the zendo zazen training is an aspect of my life-and-death karate training: that's not in question: that's not for you just as practice with rifle and pistol at the range may not be for you.
the jiu-jitsu gym and the knockdown karate dojo are the core of my kara-te training: those are not in question.
it's the 'other' karate dojo practice that I am questioning (again): I've stayed for the excellent kata: While the people are nice, I don't think that dojo's approach is as effective as karate self-defense can be so I may bow out of that dojo.
p.s. pardon my opinion, but I have not met an aikido person(s) to teach me real self-defense.
Last Edit: May 19, 2011 18:09:33 GMT -5 by havamal
You've been asking this question for a while now. Time for action. Here's my suggestion:
Commit yourself to the hardest style you currently practise and give it 100% for a month. No excuses, turn up at every session and give it your best. Don't train at the softer styles or sit muttering poems. If after a month you still miss the arty farty stuff, you should go back to that as you're not really wanting hard training. You like the idea of combat effectiveness, but not the graft.
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls (or a sweat soaked gi) and looks like work." -- Thomas Edison